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UNFINISHED COMPETITION DEMOS - A NEW TREND IN THE ATARI SCENE?
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moondog is on the run again... nope... today I wont kick some people or piss on
someones leg. This article is just inspired by the strange competitions on the
last Atari parties. This article is not thought as offense, just thought to make
you think a bit about this theme.
You surely remember the rule of former Atari parties, that the demos that were
given into the competitions have to be released in that way, don't you? This
means that the band, who did a demo, still can create updates and a debugged
version as well later, but the party version has to be released too, mostly on
the party it was coded for.
I know, even on older Atari parties again and again appeared demos that were
given into the competitions but never released then, just for example the 3disk
smasher "Illusions" by DUNE. That was 1995 and a seldom move.
Since then the release politics changed a lot... but due to some freax even the
one or other party version that wasn't tought for release saw the light of day,
what a luck, because there never appeared updated versions. But in the last year
that strange idea reached its climax and to force this a bit more, the most of
those demos weren't reworked much (or better nothing at all) as they were final
released... examples?
WILDFIRE's "TUT" - SILLYVENTURE PARTY APRIL - released in August!
MIND DESIGN's "HARDCORE" - SILLYVENTURE PARTY APRIL - released in August!
Both demos appeared in the competition versions, 4 months after the party itself
and I wonder why? Both bands said because of the missing motivation to rework
them... so what? In a time as demos are released more or less for and on parties
only they really thought to find the time to do something without the pressure
of a deadline? I wont kick them for this, but some bugs were always the reason
for the dying of many demo projects...
In that case I like the politics of CHECKPOINT. DEFJAM created the so called
49% version of "SURETRIP", the demo was far away to be finished, but he released
that party version and as you can see, there was no final version... but he had
impressed the crowed a lot and I think the least of all are still waiting for
the final version, just because the party version was ass kicking enough!
But that wasn't all. Happily (at least for a few people) MYSTIC BYTES' released
the party version of the winning demo called "UPSIDE DOWN". But here an updated
version was planned as well and in my eyes it would have been needed a lot just
because right after the release a lot of people mourned about the fact that the
demo didn't run on their machines, due to some unknown reasons.
This time the destiny of the demo wasn't ruled by the motivation of the coder,
at least that info was spreaded, but by his harddisk that burned away with all
the demo sources...
Ok... that was the SILLYVENTURE harvest... the final kick was reached with the
STNICCC party in December last year. Yes, that party or better the "releases"
of that party, were the biggest motivation for me to write this article...
As you remember 7 Atari demos were done for the competitions and just ONE (!!!)
was finished and released! I wont talk about demos that were announced for that
party, but about demos that were given into the different competitions. And in
my eyes it is more than fair that only the finished stuff has won.
The reason for going mad is growing much more, just because one month already
passed by and NO other demo was released so far!
Here you have to check two sides... At one hand it is great that so many people,
and over all, people who didn't announced it before, have taken part into the
competitions. If they would haven't done that we would have nothing to wait for
and nothing to be happy about.
But on the other side I must send my respects to CHECKPOINT again, who decided
to hold back their demo because of the included bugs, even if some people, who
have seen the preview screens told me that it would have ruled the competition
for sure. Just think, as I wrote above, a demo that was shown on a competition
is no reason to see it finally on the own machine.
I know, it is some kind of encourage to give an unfinished demo into a compo and
as I can remember you can harvest a lot of laugh with it as well, just as I
remember our old .tnb. dentro back in 1994, that fucked up on the party machine,
I can remember our feelings, sitting there and seeing the garbages and bombs
that our demo produced on the big screen and I wont stuck in the body of our
coder DRIZZT in these days. But, this demo finally never saw the light of day
but we also didn't won anything with it, because it made the very last place.
And as I remember right DRIZZT got tired to finish that demo. And so why should
all the demos of the STNICCC be finished sometimes? Or furthermore, with this
strange release politics also another possibility is opened to the makers, just
to release their demos on ANOTHER party again. I've seen enough of them...
I wont put under the charge of the STNICCC demo makers that they will do that
sometimes, but as the history shows, several people did it, just the guys of
NEW TREND who released their "STRANGE CIRCUMSTANCES" on two parties, one early
version on the DCC 2 1994 (and it has won...) and the final version on the FRIED
BITS 2 party just two months later where it took just the 4th place (hehe).
Another bad example was coming from the megamighty (...) INDEPENDENT, who have
released the so called FRIED BITS invitation dentro for the FRIED BITS 2 demo
competition under the NEWLINE label... And 2 years later (!) the parts of that
demo were included into the ABSENCE/INDY demo "JOINT VENTURE".
This demo alone was a hype itself, just because it has won the GIGAFUN party in
summer 1996. Yes... but strangely it appeared again on the INTERCON party in
autumn 1996as official release.
Another demo, that was released two times (in a bit changed versions) was the
MYSTIC BYTES 4K intro "SURPRISE", that was released in 1997 the first time as
the first production of the band after their split from the SHADOWS and a second
time for the INTERJAM'98 party...
I still have more examples (one from France, where MJJ PROD did something like
this as well) but want to stop here. I don't want to say that I think that the
makers of the STNICCC demos want to do something like that, I don't think that
they are so simple minded. But as written somewhere above, I just wonder what
happened in the scene.
And I wonder much more because I think if I have the encourage to give a demo
into a competition that isn't finished, it must be good anyway, don't you think?
I for myself wont give something into competition that doesn't reached the state
I want it to have. I wont show something to others I wouldn't be proud of!
After all, they have given their demos to the compo, they have reached the known
ranks, so what? Where is the need to develop the demos much more? There is no
single bit to change! Why showing the people some polished stuff many months
later so that they wonder why it made just the second or third place for example
and not the real party versions THAT have reached those ranks?
Or were those party versions as bad that they don't got the ass in their pants
to spread them for free and to have time for other projects?
This I have to ask my group mates as well. They didn't finished it, then it
should be ready before XMAS, now we have the end of January and nothing happened
and I start to wonder again... Sure, I have to shut up, just because I didn't
nothing for the demo itself, I even never saw a bit of it...
Anyway, the thing I want to write and ask, just to end those phrases, is...
What the hell is so damn wrong with "party" versions of demos that they weren't
released for public anymore? What is the reason that some demos are even dying
silently on some disx and harddisx because of the dying motivation of their
makers to bring them to the end? Wouldn't it be better to postpone a release AND
a public show instead of making the people hungry at first to let them starving
to death on the out stretched arm? Please think about it...
A final word... I wont kick anyone with this article, I just wanted to write
down my thoughts after the last year's demo "releases". I know that several
people, esp. the makers of the those preview-demos aren't very satisfied with
the state of their demos as well... I just wonder why they don't go the way of
other bands who postpone their stuff before showing some unfinished stuff that
would finally damage their reputation in the scene as well, just as CHECKPOINT
or CREAM for example.
If you show a preview and you hold it back untill it's finished some day the
people will wait for a lot more and surely will be disturbed when they will get
just the "party version" then...
And finally one last question... why do the party organizers not point out that
the demos that were given into the competitions have to be released on the party
or they will be disqualified? Do they are in fear to see no one releasing some
demo or that their competitions will be a flop? I really want to know that...
Just think about it...
.tSCc. moondog - 2k1
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